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Aditya's avatar

I personally value honesty a lot, and I think it's a form of assertiveness. Being honest is asserting your personhood, lying is suppressing it. Are there times when being assertive is not the move? Yes, I think there are many:

1. You know someone is insecure about an immutable aesthetic characteristic (height, eye shape, etc). They ask you point blank if you think it looks good. You don't. You could be honest to assert your personhood, or you could prioritize them by telling a convincing white lie.

2. Your injustice example: you could lie to prevent injustice, or you could tell the truth and let it stand. Is it worth prioritizing your personhood over the practical suffering? I don't think so. As to the second order effects, I'm not sure that I'd prefer a pliable population with a centralized system of morality. Injust laws should be fought, passively or actively. Just laws can still be enforced through strong deterrence etc.

3. Someone is suicidal and you're talking them down. You exaggerate the value of life, because you think they aren't being rational, and you aren't sure if they should reconsider or not. Prioritizing your personhood can come at great costs.

4. Even self-delusion has its place. Sometimes you might have a very harmful belief that you can't shake. You could prioritize your self-expression and follow that belief to its logical end. But it's often better to ignore that, delude yourself into de-prioritizing (by explicitly lying to yourself), and talk to others or just accept some level of self-delusion.

I found the post very interesting, especially in terms of how lying is so commonly double-standard-ed without any rationalization. But I think honesty/assertive/self-expressiveness can be overruled at times, other you risk being excessively egotistical.

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Lori Quakenbush's avatar

Lots to thinknabiut.

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